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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.28 16:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Thoraemond
Originally by: Ji Sama
Currently there is one other director role-holder in the corporation, and that is Scorpious Kross.
It seems unlikely to be necessary to audit all employees (if the enterprise's exposure to each is sufficiently limited). However, a second Director sounds like (at least) one more account for the auditor to examine.
I should be a requirement, anyone with director roles and access has damn near the same liability as a CEO as far as a public interest goes. Standard employees can be skipped for the most part, however names will need to be provided so that a background check against eve-search and employment history can be done.
Depending on time involved, whoever is doing the audit should spend at least 3-4 hours on this one. Scrubbing your corporate wallets, your director's wallet, your wallet, and then spamming that against employment histories.
...at least this is what I would do. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:12:00 -
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The POS is number 1 on the security list. It would be pretty trivial to move this to a holdings corporation and have TMP join in an alliance so that access could still be had and operations continue. There is the obvious small details of tearing down/putting up/refuel but its pretty small.
The prints would be the next best option, but then you get into issues of how to secure them and still maintain some type of corporation since to build off them, the build alt would have to be in the holding corporation unless things were run off a copy system. Copies could work depending on your consumption amounts.
I know there are a number of people here that could do the former, and quite a bit that could assist with the latter. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:23:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama
i just wanna be clear that we are talking a very big pos here...
its not something you just take down...
since we are only starting to move into the bpo / construction business, alot of this could be secured... imo...
i would be thankful for any pointers as who could help with this. though i must say atm. taking the pos down seems out of the question..
it would take some 24 hours i think to offline and unanchor it all!
EDIT: ok 24 hours is a bit over the top, but it has alot of anchored offline weapon systems etc... hardeners! etc.
You don't necessarily have to take that POS down immediately. Funds are secured and used to purchase the exact same items and then powered up at the same time while you tear the first one down. TMP is then left to liquidate the first POS at their leisure. The purchase of the second POS would be handled by the previous mentioned holding corp. A somewhat smaller model of how this works in operation is a public investment handled by Bad Bobby by which he secured a capital ship from the OP, funds from the investors, distributed funds to the OP, and then held the carrier until bond completion.
Only this in instance, the POS would be placed up and running.
Just for sh*ts and giggles, if you could securitize the POS and prints, you've easily gotten almost to 50% security. Add in the bonds and you're damn near at 100%.
With that much security you might even be able to negotiate a lower public rate
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama
i have a problem though, (it doesnt have to be a problem)
if i use the pos and the bpo's + the returned investments as security. i would effectively neuter my R&D plan imo..
And since that has an estimated 10-15% of the invesment this ipo brings in, this could in theory be removed, but this changes to much of the overall plan imo. nothing i couldnt handle, but i still think that the whole IPO should be reviewed then..
i dont know, im just not comfortable with making huge changes in the BP after the offer has started, and investments has been reserved.
dunno, im in two minds here...
(im thinking out loud here, i have no current plan to divert from the BP, but i am more than open to suggestions on how to increase security without limiting my potential profit.)
The ways around issues are pretty easy depending on what you intended goal is. I know you don't want to let the cat out of the bag on some things, so if you'd like feel free to get in touch with myself of Bad Bobby, or any one of the many trusted folks around here.
Either of us can be trusted to go over details and help you discuss your plan and how it might fit into any securitized options. This way you might be able to make up your mind one way or the other if you're (and your corpmates too  ) comfortable with that. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.28 18:40:00 -
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Im getting ready to go program our wireless net here, so I'll be unavailable till tonight some time. But feel free and I'll get back with you to with my personal addy. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.29 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama
atleast 3 billion of the bonds could be handed over to a trustfund..
it would be no problem, the big bond i have that matures next saturday, is kinda dubvious and wouldnt feel comfortable exposing that, and i am 100% sure that the investor would not want his bond in other hands...
Depending on what the investments were and what they entailed I could take the entire 10b and roll it into my current operations. Most likely if its liquid isk, it would just be rolled over into my current trading operations while any asset style items would be held locked down in my research corporation.
I'd even be willing to offer a small return on it. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.04.29 12:51:00 -
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Originally by: Ji Sama
also @ kazzac we are talking about the large bond i have that matures on the 8th?
if thats the case; i see no problem rolling this over into your business for a return that could be justified to my investors...
The options are pretty limitless here. You could even just wait until maturity on the 8th, cash it out and then launch at a reduced amount. Or launch now, once it cashes out I'll run your buyback program to reduce your liability over time, etc...
Sky is the limit.
Evemail the details of what it is, consists of, etc.. and I can get back to you by end of day on what sorta return I could offer if any on it. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.05.01 14:51:00 -
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Originally by: HawkBlade
Not a drama bomb but I'm pulling out of doing this audit.
8 accounts to audit takes more than just a few days and I don't take to kindly to being pressured for faster turn around. Actually I think I got fired so screw it.
Shar if you want to split the load, I'd be happy to help
I got some time this weekend |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.05.05 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic
This could have (and still could) blow up if Caleb decides to run with the cash. Will you remain liable for the debt if this happen Ji Sama? Have you done any background check on Caleb? Has an auditor checked out Caleb prior to receipt of funds? Has it been made clear from the start that Caleb would be in holding of 20+ billion isk?
I wasn't going to say anything since I figured this little faux pas by the OP was pretty clear as day and Bobby was still in board despite being liable to split that POS asset. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.05.07 13:54:00 -
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Ji, send me your API details and I'll take a look.
I make no promises on how fast I can turn around that many accounts. |
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Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.05.08 12:43:00 -
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Originally by: YouGotRipped
No ****? Well I thought you were already auditing him
Nope, having not logged into my main (read Kazzac) in some days I found a evemail in my box asking for one, but this was before the actual start of anything.
At this point I still have nothing as well. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.05.09 19:28:00 -
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I'm still available, and still awaiting API keys.
IN fact I have free time until monday afternoon at which point I'll be nose deep in a new VOIP system so don't expect to even hear from me for awhile. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.05.12 12:15:00 -
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Just an update that I'll be finished with this likely tomorrow or day after.
That is assuming these catalyst switches cooperate with this Nortel router. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.05.13 14:09:00 -
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I'll be finishing up my end here by COB today assuming no one bothers me during my lunch hour. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.05.13 15:46:00 -
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You can find my audit report here.
This is also the half official roll out of evefas |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.05.14 01:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ricdic
Nothing against Ji Sama here but we need to know what public operations you are currently running.
Agreed, and Im glad Ric pointed it out.
I hate being the judge and jury and much rather prefer to just be the information presenter. |
Kazzac Elentria
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Posted - 2009.05.16 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: YouGotRipped
Not quite. Given the focus of the IPO and the high return, I trust the auditor will retain possession of those API keys and validate future monthly reports... for fear leads to anger; anger leads to hate; hate leads to suffering... and premature burnout leads to Ponzi schemes. 
Every person I've ever audited has their own group in my EMMA installs. (You can imagine the size of that damn database)
If the key remains live I'll keep pulling data and just keep it to myself until its needed for whatever reason. |
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